Yes Janet Maybin has a great chapter - this is the reference: Story voices: the use of reported speech in 10-12 year olds spontaneous narratives , in Thompson, L. (ed.) Children talking: the development of pragmatic competence, Clevedon, Multilingual Matters, pp 36-48: 1-85359-394-X Thomas, K. and Maybin, J. (1998) This article is talking about 'cultural pioneers' as if they are typical of all girls. I know about this sort of girl; but I think the writer has seen them on tv more often than in real life.
Interestingly 'Friends'' scriptwriters take credit for the construction ' I am so NOT going to do that' etc, which they claim to have invented for the emphatic Chandler. I must admit though, to have been fascinated by the use of the word 'like' used in the way Zengotita describes, for quite a while. I have a friend who does it all the time, and is forever pulling faces in mockery of others or to show her expression, ' I was like ...(pulls face)' where the expression takes the place of a word. I note it is always for the purpose of ridiculing others.
The kids next door use 'whatever' all the time. They add insults too - like "Whatever McDonald's worker" and accompany the verbal with the visual finger signs "WMW"
I like "love it"!
Has anyone heard of Thomas De Zengotita before? I have read the whole book now - and still like it. He writes about the 'other' kids too - those outside the clique of the scary girls - and suggests that they flee to alternative niches - but still view themselves in a mediated way ... and consequently label themselves as a 'computer geek' or "whatever".
Anyway, glad that it has sparked some interest.
And back to slang expressions: Dr Joolz, your blog is well to the jay bad (South London 1979)
Simply Clare, what were you doing in South London in 1979? I was teaching 10 year olds in Clapham and living in Tooting and I cannot translate this to my shame..
Mary Plain, I am sorry to admit that I was a school girl in leafy Epsom. I went to Wallace Fields Middle School at this time, and hung (hanged out?) out with many other preteens who used to say things like "Top of the Pops was well to the jay bad last night". Not too far at all from Clapham and Tooting in fact - but this terminology was obviously 'insider knowledge'.
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Yes Janet Maybin has a great chapter - this is the reference:
Story voices: the use of reported speech in 10-12 year olds spontaneous narratives , in Thompson, L. (ed.) Children talking: the development of pragmatic competence, Clevedon, Multilingual Matters, pp 36-48: 1-85359-394-X Thomas, K. and Maybin, J. (1998)
This article is talking about 'cultural pioneers' as if they are typical of all girls. I know about this sort of girl; but I think the writer has seen them on tv more often than in real life.
Interestingly 'Friends'' scriptwriters take credit for the construction ' I am so NOT going to do that' etc, which they claim to have invented for the emphatic Chandler.
I must admit though, to have been fascinated by the use of the word 'like' used in the way Zengotita describes, for quite a while. I have a friend who does it all the time, and is forever pulling faces in mockery of others or to show her expression, ' I was like ...(pulls face)' where the expression takes the place of a word. I note it is always for the purpose of ridiculing others.
What does 'nang' mean Kate?
I like 'whatever' very much, for its alternative uses as put down and genuine openness to alternatives.
Yeah Kate, what does Nang mean?
Pleeeeeese tell us.
The kids next door use 'whatever' all the time. They add insults too - like "Whatever McDonald's worker" and accompany the verbal with the visual finger signs "WMW"
I like "love it"!
Has anyone heard of Thomas De Zengotita before? I have read the whole book now - and still like it. He writes about the 'other' kids too - those outside the clique of the scary girls - and suggests that they flee to alternative niches - but still view themselves in a mediated way ... and consequently label themselves as a 'computer geek' or "whatever".
Anyway, glad that it has sparked some interest.
And back to slang expressions: Dr Joolz, your blog is well to the jay bad (South London 1979)
Simply Clare, what were you doing in South London in 1979? I was teaching 10 year olds in Clapham and living in Tooting and I cannot translate this to my shame..
Mary Plain, I am sorry to admit that I was a school girl in leafy Epsom. I went to Wallace Fields Middle School at this time, and hung (hanged out?) out with many other preteens who used to say things like "Top of the Pops was well to the jay bad last night". Not too far at all from Clapham and Tooting in fact - but this terminology was obviously 'insider knowledge'.
I think it is boody fantatstic. I am going to start using this now instaead of 'Cool' as that is way to common.
That is a well jay to the bad decision, Dr Joolz.
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